Alien prequel not yet released???

Ridley has stated that there are "two more steps until Alien" meaning prequels other than Prometheus. Full movies, not TV shows or "mini movies". I believe his son will be directing one if not both of them w/ Guy Pierce, Noomi, Fassbender & THERON!

He's also stated that Prometheus is a stand alone film and that it goes off in a different direction to Alien. Lindelof said that Prometheus had 2 babies, one of which turned into Alien and its sequels and the other will go off in the direction of the Prometheus sequels.

I think you're blowing it a little out of proportion with the additional theory, all based on what he merely said, but who knows, time will tell Sometimes however, actors are mistaken and say things that are more or less correct in interviews. Example: In an earlier interview that I saw a couple of weeks before the release, Idris was very [b]adamant[/b] that Alien was released in 197[b]5[/b].

Finally. Bona fide proof that further sequels will, in some way, be pulling us back to how it is related to the original story (Alien). Personally, I wouldn't be to surprised if their are Predators by the end of the 3rd, (I doubt it though).

@Magellan9. How can you blow a theory out of proportion? lol. That's why it's called a theory doctor. I didn't base it on what he alone said.

There's the Prometheus relaunching 10 11 12 teaser, which alot of people seem to believe means something other than the DVD/Blu Ray release. Also, there's a teaser of the engineers voice on an answering machine? What does all that mean?

Sorry but I think it's quite far fetched to think that 10/11/12 is online to promote another film entirely. Especially just based off of Ilba's statement about the film not being a prequel. Everyone involved with the film was quite adamant that it wasn't a "prequel" per se even before the film came out. They were trying to get movie goers to understand that it wasn't a "prequel" like the prequel for The Thing in which you see exactly what leads up to the original. They wanted people to understand that it was a stand alone story in the Alien universe with some of the same "aliens" or "creatures" and "The Company" in it. I too think you and a lot of other people are blowing 10/11/12 way out of proportion. I too used to believe that it was going to be a big announcment but trust me, it's just the dvd release.

^^^ Agree

if whatis101112 is nothing, then there's gonna be a LOT OF really unhappyfilm-goers, a lot of really unhappy alien fans - but then they've already endured ALien 4, so they must have THICK SKIN by now - LOL

Yes they mean by not a Prequel that it is not a direct prequel in that the events of Prometheus do not lead to Alien. Thus.... None of the crew in Prometheus have nothing to do with Alien and LV426 The Engineers who died in the movie cant and wont have anything to do with Alien and LV426 The Deacon does not have anything to do with creation of the Xeno or Alien and LV426 None of the Derelicts left on LV 223 in Prometheus get to LV 426. Ridley has already said that Alien was a the event of the Derelict ship crashing on LV 426 thousands of years ago, and that it was carrying Egg Cargo and one got lose and got to the Pilot who then had to land down the Derelict in a safe place and activate the Warning Beacon. I would also not be surprised if we never see the Derelict land on LV 426 in any future movies, i think Ridley will by the time Prometheus 3 is finished explain the purpose and connection and creation or how these all came to be. LV 223 Outpost, the Urns and the Xeno.

Maybe they will be releasing the Movie with more scenes than the Original but then again the DVD/Blue-Ray release has extras including the Engineer cut scenes so it could just be that. To me the 10 11 12 is simply a date in which we will get to see the movie in a different light, and by that we will get more footage that we did not see in the theatrical release. That could mean extended cut or simply that we finally get to see things in the extras that we have not seen as of yet.... i.e deleted scenes.

@engineering. Quote "I too think you and a lot of other people are blowing 10/11/12 way out of proportion. I too used to believe that it was going to be a big announcment but trust me, it's just the dvd release." I don't mean any disrespect when i say this! but the same could be said about most subjects regarding Prometheus on this site! All we can say, if we don't have the facts is "maybe".... "what if"..... "its possible"....."i think"......"imo". Although, deep down, i don't think it will be the ACTUAL prequel, it's just a thought. *smiley*

There's alot of conflicting statements from cast and crew of Prometheus. On one hand, they are saying that it goes off in a different direction to Alien and on the other hand, they are saying that there are a couple more sequels before it ties into Alien? I wish they'd make their bloody minds up!

Imaginations sure are running wild with this 10/11/12 thing..

@necronom 4 I think Ridley wants to explore the Engineers and the connection with mankind and why they created us, more than cover Alien. I do think he will give answers regarding how the Engineers came across the Xeno and what connection there is, and i think he will go on to say how the Xeno came to be or how it was discovered. The reason for this... Well while Ridley thinks Alien has been done to death and he wants to concentrate on the Space Jockey there is still one big question left unanswered in all Alien movies... [size=200][b]Where did the Xeno come from?[/b][/size] While Ridley may not want to go back to the Xeno, i feel he will do and will explain how it came to be, and the reason i think is because if he does not answer it and if he leaves it a Mystrey which is what he wants to do. When he is long gone, Fox could always give someone else the story to come up with when and how the Xeno came to be and they could end up creating a story that would make Ridley turn in his grave. You see Ridley lost creative control over how the Xeno Evolved, if he did a Alien 5 then how is he going to do the Xeno any different apart from a Evolution? Surely he would not go and destroy the concepts from Aliens to Alien Resurrection. So while the process of how the Xeno went from Alien to what it is in all other Alien movies inc AVPs, while this process was taken out of Ridleys hand and one that he can only change by reinventing the franchise. He can have full control over the Question of where the Xeno came from and who was behind it, by the time Ridley finishes Prometheus i think he would rather answer the Xeno Origins in his own way, to the way he wants its Origins to be told. Rather than left as a Mystery that in future Fox could get someone to cash in on.

ok firstly were is this interview? If it was shot a while ago - the second part was not confirmed according to fox so I guess it kind of was stand alone - of course we know its not now...

I still do hope that the deacon plays a bigger role in Paradise. Why would they even bother showing it without elaborating on it?

If they dont elaborate it would shock me and make me think they are even worse at film making than at this point :O !

@BigDave. I completely agree! One of the things that i respect most about Ridley, is his originality and steering away from old grounds that have been trampled to death. I'm just going off comments that he, Lindelof and other crew members have made but their comments are also very conflicting, which doesn't help! He is getting on in years and who knows how long he has left? Surely he must realise that? and surely he must realise that now he as opened the Prometheus can of worms, that he really should crack on and complete it, before anyone else gets their grubby mits on it and turns it into a vietnam in outerspace story, or worse, something like Alien resurrection! But nobody really knows what the 10 11 12 thing is yet! All we can do, for the moment, is guess! I'm not saying that what i posted originaly is probable! I'm saying its [b]possible[/b].

Again when was this interview? Post a link...fox only knew there would be more than one part a few months ago...well officially that is :S .

@djamelameziane. I've just watched it again and i think that what he is suggesting is that Prometheus is the bigger picture and Alien is just a branch on the Prometheus tree, so to speak? So, assuming that that is what he is suggesting, there could be many different sequels, with lots of different creatures? IMO. Or is that far fetched? Am i blowing it up out of proportion? lol. Here's the link: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeHv7J3pE38]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeHv7J3pE38[/url]

Yes i think thats the idea, as i said Ridley has touched upon how the Engineers are the Space Jockeys and while it was believed they had something to do with the Xeno, it now turns out they created us. Which means surely we are not the only creation? I cant remember what Magazine but someone translated a French one with SPFX crew interviewed. And in that article it said that mankind was one of the many worlds these Engineers had seeded across the Galaxy... This means more scope than just Humans and Xenos.... As far as the Deacon it was purely a plot device. It was a way of showing this Engineer Race had a Temple that had Urn Bio Weapons that contained a substance linked to the Xeno and the final proof of a connection with the Xeno was the Deacon. This shows that the Bio Weapons they had at LV 223 are connected to the Xeno somehow.... How well thats one of the hot topics on this site and one they have not given us a answer to. So Does Urns make Xenos and other Organisms? Are there different variants of Xeno/Organism in each Temple? Or are the Urns a product of reverse Engineering the Xeno to Re-weaponize it? Answers on a Post Card.... Addressed to Ridley/Fox lol. You see i feel if they touched upon the Deacon how would it be done? Another Human Mission goes to LV 223 and come across the Deacon? but they would also find the Urns as well and thus the movie would be like Prometheus meets Aliens. Never mind the plot hole on that Weyland would then have a record of coming into contact with the Deacon prior or around the same time it has knowledge of the Xeno. Thus could be forced to non Canon like AVP. Have the Deacon hop aboard Shaws Juggernaut but again what kind of movie would this make, Shaw and David would not last long and then where does the Juggernaut land? Maybe it gets to the Home World and causes Chaos.... but then this would mean Shaw and David dont last long and i doubt Ridley would cast them for cameos... And then Deacon invading Engineers home world well it would be all similar to Alien again. When Ridley says he wants to stay away from the Xeno, i think that means the Deacon, the Hamerpedes hell and any other Urn Black Goo mutated Organisms. So the Urns and the contents in them, i feel will have no bearing in Prometheus 2 we will not see any mutations of Organisms like the Xeno. [b]HOWEVER.......[/b] I do think we will see a explanation for the Urns/Xeno and LV 223 by the time Ridley is finished with his story and that may be Prometheus 3 or 4 or what ever movie Ridley will think finishes the Saga he is trying to tell. This could mean the Deacon could be explored in a Spin Off, maybe non Cannon or not. The many other Races created by the Engineers we may see could be explored after Prometheus Series of movies is complete. We see the Clone Wars Animated Series in the Star Wars World, well after Prometheus surely the scope is there to make a TV Series exploring some of the other creations and creators connected with what ever Shaw and David find in Prometheus 2. As Ridley said... Xenos have been done to death.... now he has opened up a whole new world of creations the Engineers have had their hands in.

Yeah. IMO, i don't think Ridley will explain the Xeno in any of the Prometheus sequels, as he as said something to the effect of, the xeno had it's day and now it's no longer scary, which i have to agree with. That possibly means that we are never going to find out what happened to that SJ on LV 426? If it was ever going to be explained, it would possibly be done via short film or book? IMO. Here's another one by Micheal Fassbender: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drC6q7thr_k&feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drC6q7thr_k&feature=related[/url]

He said Alien is a "tiny little strand" and "this (prometheus) is a grander picture." That suggests (to me) that Alien is just a small BRANCH on the Prometheus TREE. If they were to explain the SJ from ALIEN, then they would have to go back? That it would be a prequel of Prometheus and Alien? Since the SJ as possibly been there, on LV 426, for 1000s of years? Just a thought!

Ok so that original idris interview was published 5th of june - they didnt know if any more prometheuses were going to be made - least officially. So yer it all makes sense and doesn't really point to anything at all :( . Plus actors are rarely let in on the whole picture anyway... Although I do think a short story is possible as I have said in other threads but I am getting ready for a let down - it is the trend so far :S ... I think the xeno will come into the story after all there is a big mural that had face huggers and something that was pretty xeno like and it must be something to do with all the engineers dying on that planet and a deacon! But it may only be a small part - we will have to see...I was thinking that the god like being may actually be were the goo comes from and looks like the xeno ...in this idea I imagined teh elders had trapped the god like xeno thingy and maybe hte black go was blood or something but it ended up destroying there empire possibly - maybe the god xeno wanted to be trapped it was just playing with them :D ....anyway one of many ideas....

@djamelameziane. Quote "5th of june - they didnt know if any more prometheuses were going to be made"....How do ya know that they didn't know? Also, to me, the mural looks like a deacon, not a xeno...

I agree Ridley does think the Xeno is only a small part of the universe, and wants to distance away from the Xeno and by that it has to also be the Deacon and anything else to do with those Urns. I still think he would tie in all the lose ends by the time he is finished and he would rather stamp his name on the Xeno Origins. As if he does not well it would leave Fox to explain it in the future and that could also mean a movie done without Ridley having any input and if they go to cash in on the fact that people would want answers eventually and knowing the Xeno is connected to the Engineers. Well that could potentially mean a movie with Engineers and Xenos done in a way that would go against the ideas Ridley would have had for both. That way if he answers the Xeno Origins and connection with the Engineer by the time he finishes all his Prometheus movies, then no one can then bastardise either franchise of Engineer and Xeno.

The only people that i would like to see direct the film, that tells the story of that space jockeys final moments, is either Ridley himself, one of his sons or David Fincher! If it is going to be anybody else, i don't think i'd bother. But i think that it may be done via short film or book. Hopefully by short film, about 1 hour long, in black and white or very dull colour, with no human characters and very dark and disturbing!

Just realised, 10 11 12 = 33. There is something i've seen about that number being connected to the illuminati and Satan worship. Any connection?

2012 (Prometheus) - 33 = 1979 (ALIEN). So simple and not sinister by any means. Has no one seen this? ...although it doesn't make sense. Yet. Unless the actual direct link between those movies will be revealed on that day, in one way or another. But I cannot see that happening, as much as I'd like to.

@HAL. You might be onto something there!

LOL dont start back on that numerology - its just coincidence ! And yes officially they didnt know if a part 2 was going to be made on the 5th of june - they announced the moment they knew this more recently. And also logically they would want to take any risks till they knew prometheus was going to make enough dollars so it makes sense that way too. Of course I hope that loadsa secrete stuff has been going on but it doesn't look too likely that a part 2 was confirmed before recently! But heres to hoping and hats off if they kept that under wraps!

@djamelameziane: That's pretty much what I said! It is unlikely if not impossible to keep something this big under wraps for that long and with so many people involved. Yet I'm still hopeful something great will be revealed that day. Even if it's just another piece of viral campaign, I don't mind. However, Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof have stated before that date, that there might be more than just one instalment needed to tell a story of that magnitude and complexity. For a long time I was convinced that with that sort of budget, the time spent on principal photography and knowing that all the LV-223 related sets had been taken down for good, one could expect a '2 for 1' stunt. Let me also remind you about that mysterious filming in Alicante, Spain that never happened, or did it? The opening day of the NY ComiCon sounds more like a coincidence to me than obvious numbers, although it seems an appropiate occassion for announcements of that kind. But as for the numerology in this particular case, coincidence just isn't good enough for me! No offense to 'necronom 4', I thought I was doing better than throwing in a reference to the Illuminati or any other satanic worship conspiracies. If all this effort (i.e a dedicated website with references to big literature) is made just to announce the DVD/BluRay release (which we already know by now), then this would be more than just embarrassing. Furthermore, don't forget that the 10.11.12 date has been in the [url=http://www.weylandindustries.com/timeline]timeline[/url] section of the viral Weyland Industries website since the day it went online, and it marks the 'official registration' of Weyland Industries. And yes, I'm also getting tired of seeing this topic being discussed over and over. But having said that, it helps immensely to beat time, doesn't it? @necronom 4: Thanks for acknowledging my previous comment, I'm still not sure if anyone else has come accross that before, and if it may have been discussed to bits in other threads already. But I also thought I was onto something there. If that's the case, then we can share credits for it since you got me started with the '33'! ;) Well, time will tell...

Yes I know about spain - seems like there was space for a short but not a whole part 2 there - they were going to shoot the yacht scene there but I dont think it happened - fishy stuff! So yer I dont rule out part 2 but wow that would be an achievement to keep it secrete! But the old TV series does fit in for all this as well with the launch in NY comic con...

That would be cool :) They've done it with other releases...sort of a mini featurette kinda thing that centres around characters that didn't have much screen time...you never know. I can't wait for the Blu Ray release so I can completely "nerd out" and watch it in hair splitting detail...I've got a 3D Blu Ray player and 55 inch plasma so "sock it too me Riddley!" I can't wait..groovy man :) Maybe they'll have an alternate ending...like...the Engineer turns out to be Noomi's dad...;)