Xenomorph to make an appearance in Prometheus 2?

Yes i think that it should be included and also put or reveal a little of intelligence just to make a goal on its character

i think there should be a reveal of it origin and maybe a small part introducing the xeno

IMO the xenomorph has its own story to tell. Prometheus is about a different race altogether, that being the Engineers. I would love to know how both met, but not at the expense of revealing the full origin of the xenomorph. That said, then yes I would like to see a xenomorph in Prometheus 2, but only as a minor sideline that gives just a tad more than a nod to the original Alien.

IMO the Giger Alien has its own story to tell. Prometheus is about a different race altogether, that being the Engineers. I would love to know how both met, but not at the expense of revealing the full origin of the Giger Alien. That said, then yes I would like to see a Giger Alien in Prometheus 2, but only as a minor sideline that gives just a tad more than a nod to the original Alien.

@ Necronom4, I take it that you are referring to seeing more of the origins of the life cycle of the Giger Alien, rather than the Cameron version of having a queen. If so, I would be more than happy for Prometheus 2 to go down the origins of that route.

Personally I would like to see one, but not as the center of the plot. We already have four monsters movies and for me, only the first one is the maximum exponent of canon. However we can not ignore the fact that Prometheus has disappointed many fans, and FOX knows that. That said, I think it's almost a promise and I'm pretty sure that we'll see something in the sequel. I enjoyed Prometheus, and my personal desire is that FOX continue expanding the new mythology, but obviously this is just a cold business.

I wouldn't mind seeing an origin xeno story too but like what others have said make it a side line. Its not about Aliens its about the Engineers and how they did crazy things to planets. It better not have only Aliens that would be so stupid. Those fans that were disappointed are the ones who wanted to see the over-done monsters. IMO

I conquer with the opinions above. I just want a side story or small guest appearence by the xeno

I got too passionate about it again. I dont know why I am such a Prometheus fan its like one of my absolute favorite movies.

@Batchpool. Yeah, I would like to see some type of reference to the origin of the Giger Alien and the origin of those eggs from the original ALIEN film. But it has to be subtle! They could easily show some short origin visuals through holograms. That would be Mint! However, I get the feeling that Camerons queen would be making a re-appearance, if they were to show the origins of Giger's Alien. In that case, I would not wish to see the back story! Please Ridley, no queen!!! P.S. I coped your post and changed it slightly due to laziness and also agreeing with what you wrote. My apologies.

Don't we already know how a xenomorph is formed? Egg/facehugger/host... So, wouldn't we really be looking to find out how the eggs and facehugger come to be? That would be more interesting to me. At any rate, if a xeno is in the movie, I don't want to see the whole thing... just a glimpse of it as we all know what it looks like. Besides, I'm kind of with Ridley Scott on this that it is played out.

i dont.... We have seen the Xeno too many times, and whats to really see.... the only thing we have not seen is how they came to be and any Xeno Vs Engineer scenes.... I would like to see them appear in the movie maybe as Mural or as Flash back scene but thats about it and dont think it would be wise to have a movie where the Xeno takes centre stage. Look at Shaws Dream Scene with her Dad... the Full Sacreficial Scene, (well deleted one) and the Engineer Hologram Scenes. I would not mind if the Xeno are shown in such flash backs but only for short periods.... Unless they are doing either... 1) Prometheus Part 3 or 2) Paradise is spread into a 2 Part movie like the Last Harry Potter and that a 2 part Paradise is set to finish the franchise and each par is at least 2 hours long. I just think if Shaw find a Paradise that then we see infested with Xenos or at some point some get released would be far too much. And we have only scratched the surface of the Engineer Race, and i worry we really see much of them but we will see their creators and they end up being like Xenos.... no thank you... We need a movie that shows Flash Backs like the beginging of Prometheus a few scenes as such that show the Engineers, maybe shows there interactions with Ancient Mankind.... would be better. Then a few flash backs as in either a Elder transmitting visions to Shaw to share with her the Engineers role and purpose etc like how David accessed Shaws dreams. Or maybe the Engineers are gone, but she finds a computer recording system like the Hologram play back that David activated and then finds lots of artifacts and murals and translated by David to then paint us a Picture of... 1) Who are these Engineers. 2) Where did they come from and how they came to be. 3) What is there Agenda and why was we created. 4) What became of the Engineers and Elders. 5) Why did they stop interaction with us and want us killed off. These 5 are more important than purely to find out about Xenos.... i mean we was left not having barely nothing known about the Space Jockey and Prometheus plan was to show us who that guy was, well what race they are. And they have barely scratched the surface... Yes Question 5 would have to include LV 223 and its purpose and by showing us why, and when would also give us more clues to the Xeno.

I want to see a Xenomorph in the sequel. I think there will be a epic fight between an engineer and a Xenomorph and the creature which is on the murals. But the creatures are all more powerfull because it's their territory. Maybe there is higher phase of the Xenomorph (not the queen). The origins shouldn't be revealed.

I think they may still reuse some unused concepts and plot from Star Beast.... Star Beast was the Original Alien Draft... A Sumary of the plot is this..... like Alien a Human Ship finds a Alien Signal a SOS so they thought and go to investigate. They land to find a abandoned ship, well the Alien Space Jockey Ship, they go and find skeletal remains of the Pilot with hole in its chest like the Space Jockey. The difference being that the Ship did not have Eggs, well not as in Alien, the Human Crew found near by a Pyramid and when they went to explore it it contains Leathery Urns and had Murals. Basically Star Beast plot was that the Alien Ship had landed there and had found these Urns in the Temple and was in the Process of carrying them back to their ship to study but then they got infected. They wanted to explore that idea in Alien but due to budgets they could not have shot a Pyramid Scene and the Derelict so they had the Eggs being placed under the Ship in which we latter assume is the Ships Cargo Hold, which latter evolved to be known and shown as a Large Cargo Hold. What i am saying is the Original Star Beast showed us that the Alien Race who had first been infected by the Alien in the Eggs/Urns and was a tall race who FOUND..... the Xeno and never CREATED them. Prometheus borrowed idea from Star Beast about Urns, and Temple and Murals and also how Shaws Baby was when born how the Star Beast Face Huger looked, and when Cuddes was grown up i look liked like the Mural from Star Beast.................... The one main idea from Star Beast not covered is the connection to the Space Jockey Race and how it obtained the Xeno, in which Star Beast shows they found it in a Temple. I think they would use this in Paradise, and that the Xeno or indeed a Organism or something that gave rise to the Xeno, and ultimately the Stuff in the Urns in Prometheus was something the Engineers had came across and never created from scratch. I do think we will see Engineers or Elders and we will see that they either got nearly all taken out by a Xeno or Xeno related Organism, or at very least they become victim to a new kind of Xeno unleashed by David or Shaw at the End of Paradise or at least last 3rd of the movie.

Seeing a plantation with leathery urn trees would be enough reference for me. I don't think it is necessary to go full blown xeno to give an idea of origins.

'The Morb' has certainly been done to death, but not by Ridley Scott & perhaps that's the problem? Just sayin! Prometheus was all about origins, as such we were shown the origins of what may well have become the classic Alien Morb further down the line. The sequel might contain adult deacon/s, but any Alien related lifeforms will probably only be used for evolutionary purposes. Having said that I would have no problem with our classic Alien lifeform being incorporated into the story, as Ridley would probably only include it in the context of explaining it's relationship to the Engineer race & us.

I think FOX will pretty much demand that Scott provide more context as far as the xeno is concerned otherwise they are going to lose that audience. Expectations are going to be more tempered now so they could use that to their advantage and really use the element of surprise. I mean no one is going to forget the fact that this new mythology takes place in the [i]Alien Universe[/i] thus it MUST still maintain a thread or two even if they are venturing ever further into the Engineers' culture and origins. They can do it without beating us over the head with it; show us an urn completely changed or changing into an egg and that would be enough, but you know, I would just LOVE to see the CLASSIC Giger xeno rear its head up in some penultimate scene that takes everyone off guard; make it slow, creepy and the deaths cold and for the most part unseen. I think they could do it but it has to be just right and cathartic for the xeno fans that have no hope to see it again, I think the old boy deserves one last triumphant send off.

Handled well, a flashback to the first Morb or their first encounter with a Morb would be very cool. I doubt though that it would be a classic configuration, as that one seems to be influenced by human DNA. It's Ridleys baby, he can go any way he wants with it, but I'd love to see some sort of habitat, maybe not the storm swept landscapes we're accustomed too, maybe some glittering terrain with abominable heat and startling clarity, a demonic vacuum land. Some place even the Engineers are ill equipped to survive. Maybe the Goo is manufactured by this thing they find, and seeing its gruesome effects inspire them to capture it. The first massacre. Many to follow.

I was earlier having my weekly fix of Giger art and came across this: [url=http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/gigercollector/]I would love to see something like this in Prometheus 2[/url]

I will keep myself attached to my simple NO!

I never liked the notion that the xeno the morb or whatever we call it is nothing more than a biological weapon. I much prefer to think of it as something extremely ancient and best left alone. Perhaps the engineers' folly was thinking that they could control this primal force of nature and somehow adapt it to their purposes. We saw how well this worked out for the company in the alien series. Maybe humans were just repeating the mistakes of their makers. I think we will see some version of the xeno but it will be different from the one we're used to.

I agree with that idea its unique and makes the Engineers more like us instead of us like them kind of thing.

A docile, friendly xenomorph could be on Paradise. This is a side to them we'd never expect, and in the mural, an engineer was putting his hand on a creature's head like it was a pet or mount.

Well Lindeloff had said that Prometheus gave us the answers to the Xeno and the clues are there regarding most of the Questions we have left. Lindeloff and Ridley did say the clues are there and answers, the only things Prometheus never answered was what will be found on Paradise and who created the Engineers. They seem to think everything else is in Prometheus but you need search for the clues...... And i think by that it is no mistake about every little thing they have added, especially the dialect...... A think this implies answers are in how Shaw talked about how the Sun was all alone, and how Holloway implied is that God to the head statue... and little things like that..... But then nothing was set in stone as far as explanations it was all subtle and ambiguous. I am sure Fox will want them to give us more clear answers, and also YES! If they think the movie would sell more and please more if it contained Xenos or similar then i do think Ridley may have to adapt a script that includes Organisms related to the Xeno that look more Xeno-esque than anything seen in Prometheus.

But for me i dont think we should be hand fed, a Xeno..... If we do take what Lindeloff said, and that Prometheus has the answers then yes there are a lot of clues....... such as the Frescos... I hope we get a more clearer showing of there connection, either as a flash back scene or indeed via more art work and statues/murals that David can interpret and give explanations. A bit like say if in Prometheus they had a scene that showed the one fresco... [img]http://www.youwoncannes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/prometheus-mural.jpeg[/img] What if they showed this for longer before it degraded away.. say if the expanded this dialect... ====================================== DAVID: Beautiful Painting SHAW: Its a Mural add...... FORD: Whats it a painting off. DAVID: It appears to resemble the depiction of God and Adam. SHAW: Yes from the Sistine Chapel DAVID: Remarkable resemblance to the Head Statue dont you think? FORD: But whats that thing the man is touching? SHAW: Maybe like the Sistine Chapel Mural its god and his creation. DAVID: Good observation Shaw but this does not look like your god, and that creation is certainly not human. ============================== Then we can go to the "oh no its changing" comment by Shaw... Now i am not saying this should have been in the movie, just that a comment by David like that on a Mural would give us more indication that perhaps this shows us The Engineers touching a Strange Creation, much like the God and Adam Fresco. In Paradise similar frescos, with comments from Shaw and David, on Statues and Frescos that have a more Xeno look would provide more clear answers. Prometheus maybe hints that the creature which looks kind of Xeno-Esque and maybe similar to some unused Fifield Concepts and indeed the Shaws Baby from Spaights draft... Is a sign that the Engineers either created this creature of this creature came from them.

I love that approach Dave and I think that's most likely what they'll do. I would like to see some magnificent xenomorph sculptures, more frescos, art, etc and Giger seems to be more in the business of sculpturing these days so I certainly hope Ridley is able to schedule more time with him this time. The deacon is an interesting creature in itself and they could explore that with some fresh ideas.

Well through the Franchise we got a number of different clues to the Xeno Origins.... O'Banons Alien Draft had the Space Jockeys as a Race who worshiped some Organism and they made Sacrifices to it in a Temple. His earlier Draft (Star Beast) had these Space Jockeys come across this Ancient Temple and while transporting its Leathery Urns to its ship they got infected and wiped out.... Latter the Humans came across that ships SOS the dead Space Jockeys and then found the Temple and well one gets Face Hugged by a Octopus creature. Then latter draft by Walter Hill of Alien, had the Xeno as a experiment by Weyland and they set it on LV 426 as a trap, Ash new about this and his mission was to get the crew infected and bring back a specimen. The Final Draft merged bits of that draft with O'Banons Alien one, to get what we had as the final movie, well the Book touched more upon the Final Draft.. The movie changed things a bit.. And the movie left is not knowing what, how or where the Space Jockey or Xeno came from.... These Drafts thus leave us with...... 1) Space Jockey found a abandoned Ancient Temple containing the Alien creature Urns/Eggs and got infected while trying to obtain a specimen to study. Essentially pointing to them not having nothing to do with the Xeno and just its first victim before the crew of the Nostramo.. 2) The Space Jockeys found this Organism and Worshiped it and offered Sacrifices to it (maybe to see what different lifeforms turn out like once infected by the Organism). But it appears the Space Jockeys on LV 426 got infected themselves. This shows while they never created the Xeno, they offered sacrifices as worship and also as means to figure what the Organism does with different Hosts. 3) The Company (Weyland) had a hand in creating or obtaining the Organism and left LV 426 as a trap and place to send the Nostramo to get a sample... this one dont add up... 4) As Alien was shown, we are left with a Space Jockey on his Ship carrying a Cargo of Eggs for which we have no idea what purpose. This Mystrey was latter added to by comments from Ridley and others that the Space Jockey was transporting the Deadly Cargo when one got lose and infected the Pilot who then laid a course to the nearest Baron Moon to Quarantine the Organism and set off a SOS.... This thus left us with Prometheus to answer who these Space Jockeys are/were and what connection to the Xeno. And Prometheus leads us to that they either.. 1) Created the Xeno from Scratch with some purpose in mind. 2) Created the Xerno either on purpose or accidental from the Black Goo. 3) That the Xeno or similar creature is what the Goo was created from, and maybe do they need the Xeno/Goo to create life and procreate? It shows they hold the Organism or its Original Predecessor in high regard and maybe Worshiped it, held Sacrifices to it and/or even experimented with it. Hopefully Paradise will give us some clues but not spoon feed us, or even be a Spaights Draft/Aliens + Prometheus movie.. OPPS... Sorry for going off Topic! Maybe a Little... or did i?

Well said Dave, I agree, there are plenty of clues in Pro that are hard to see in many circumstances, but they really need to bring it all together succinctly for the sake of the fans' sanity haha. I'm sure they will.

Well i dont want to see Xeno running around..... i dont mind if we see Murals and such of them or Organism like them, or if David gets up to no good and creates a new Xeno-Esque Horror thats unleashed on the Engineers or whats left on Paradise. I do think Ridley will show us the connection and what went down on LV 426 by the end of the Franchise.... Main reason being is Ridley lost all control and input into how the Xeno developed from Alien to well AVP movies.... Ridley would not go out to rubbish the Xeno in Aliens and onward or the Queen, in fact he said it made sense... But the main questions from Alien was and still are... 1) Why did the Engineer/Space Jockey, carry that Cargo and where did it come from.... (Was they Eggs, or something that Evolved into Eggs or even laid them). 2) Where did the Xeno come from, was it from the Eggs, the Goo or something else. 3) What was the connection, how did the Engineers come to be in contact with the Eggs or what ever the Eggs Evolved from. 4) Although Ridlley has hinted at and said what happened on LV 426 we have not seen it shown in the Movie Franchise or clues. Now Ridley can control and Answer those things, Alien was one of if not his best movie a Legacy, all that happened after he, Giger and O'Banon etc can take some credit for. We dont know the Orgins of the Xeno, its connection to the Engineers, and LV 426 Derelict and we only scratched the surface of the Engineers. Ridley has a chance to explain the Xeno and its connection and LV 426 in a way that Ridley wants.... He may want to keep it a secret and leave it ambiguous a unanswered question... But he knows the risk that in doing so, will leave the door open for FOX to get someone to in future be that 10, 15 or 25 years to finally answer the Xeno Origins... Once Ridley has long gone, there is no stopping someone being Employed by Fox who could even then show the Xeno was created by the Predators but stolen by the Engineers and experimented on to create the Goo which back fired on the Engineer Race. If this is something Ridley would never want, then at his age if he does not answer those questions his way, and leaves it open... someone could make the Answers on the Big Screen in a way that would make Ridley Turn in his Grave... Ridley is getting on.... while he may have 10, 20 years left in him, surely he will be too old to have any real creative input or control over the Xeno Origins when he is in his 80s.. Thus while maybe not being Spoon Fed, or indeed while not giving every detail.... I think Ridley will to a degree show the Xeno Origins, the event that led to crashed Derelict and the connection between the Engineers and Xeno.... Just as Ridley has not covered the Space Jockey on LV 426 but what he has shown in Prometheus has not all but Confirmed that the Space Jockey is indeed a Large Engineer in a Space Suit. I am sure he will cover the Xeno connection and Origins in a way that limits anyone else hijacking the creation in future.

I don't think so. The xeno's origin has been [i]implied[/i] in Prometheus. That's more than enough and Scott says the sequel will be more of its own thing.

I agree Ridley may not want to go that route, but all i was saying is lets say we dont get the Answers.... Fanboys want the Answers after Prometheus Trilogy is finished etc, we could wait years and Rildey not touch up on it and then come a day when he is too old or passes away.... If Fox see there is money to be made by doing another movie to show how the Xeno came to be and then also another Alien Xeno Movie only one that predates Alien and Prometheus timelines, then we cant rule out Fox doing so and doing so in a way that would not settle well with Ridleys ideas. Thats why i think he would have to a degree show us more clues while not spoon feed us...

Hmmm. I think we did see a Xenomorph in Prometheus 1. In my mind the Deacon is a Xeno. Just a different variety due to its unusual method of creation. I think that the type and shape of a Xeno changes depending on environment, purity and or generation.

I do think we will see clues to the Xeno, maybe Murals etc for sure. But i also do think that by the end of the franchise we will see the Traditional Xeno or at very least Egg/Face Huger at some point before the Franchise is done.... Be that Paradise or Part 3 etc... This may just be a flash back scene, it could be a scene where David reads stuff and informs Shaw, or a Engineer etc and as they are describing it, we are given a flash back.... Do i think by the time the Prometheus Series is finished we will actually see a Live Traditional Xeno, even if its in Flash Back Scene... like the Sacrificial Scene in Prometheus then my answer is.. YES i think we would.... but i dont expect much air time of it just short and sweet...